Related: Face on the Milk Carton: What Happened to Johnny Gosch? Have you told any law enforcement that you know all these details? Elizabeth Collins (left) and Lyric Cook (right) were found dead in Iowa in 2012. I can not stand when people down others for errors. So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. The parents may not know the specific killer but they DO know why thoes beautiful little girls lives we taken ! Both crimes happened during the day, but then its less likely that two young girls would be wandering around at night, for example. It is possible to find over 20 coincidences. Absolutely. Shes so cute; Id like to kidnap her, the article quotes R. Fitz as saying. According to the USA Today story, Meyers said authorities were taking a two-pronged approach to any comparisons: laboratory analysis of forensic evidence, and investigative work that could pinpoint, among other things, where Klunder may have been when other people went missing. The police chief prior to Randy Weber was also fired under similar circumstances over a technical paper trail where he was cleared of all wrong doing, but, all the cops got together and fired him too. Now he is dead. Does Altmayer arrest have any connection to missing cousins case? Three years already. He is now suspect for Delphi murders. Good job Prolly. Lots of people in Iowa are on meth. All four of the bodies were left on land that is typically frequented by hunters. lyric and elizabeth abby and libby Supplemental Motion for Discovery and Request for Rule 404 and 405 Evidence. Kent did it. Shame on you bitch if I ever see you in public I will punch you in the face like you were a dude . Its very concerning to us when you have an individual like that that has the access that he does through his employment at the time to basically roam the state or roam the Midwest, Mitch Mortvedt, Head of Field Operations for the Iowa DCI, said of Altmayer. Wow ?! Dont say anything to anyone except find out what he drove from those people, if it really stunk, why they didnt call the PD, if they really crushed it, etc. Jordi Faber that is a totally different kidnapping unfortunately. That was a 15 year old girl Kathlynn Shepard and her 12 year old friend from another small town in Iowa. He wasnt even familiar with the area, and where the girls were found at Seven Bridges Wildlife Area is the kind of place where only locals who grew up in the area go to. Hunters, fishermen, and campers tend to frequent it during deer season in the fall and in the spring. If you read about what happened in Delphi, Indiana in February 2017, its hard not to make connections with the Evansdale case. According to KCRG, the group hopes to continue raising money to add a few more memorials and additions to the park like a roadway from the land to the island, a gazebo, and possibly a bronze statue. Your ignorant fir calling someone that. As XXXXX is telling me this story, she burst into tears. Im easily manipulated and often lied to but I try yo be honest as I can and not use others toward my own personal gains or demand to get my own beliefs and opinions forced on others. What I find is a lot of evidence of disrespect, allegations, and even some cruelty. Sorry for your loss. Shame on you. Blog This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN. Atlas. Prayers to the family and friends. for example the names of the more robust girls, how would this guy know lyric and libbys middle names and that they were more robust? XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 One of my friends is from Evansdale and knew the two missing girls. Not to say I agree with all of it, but in principle I agree. I know Oelwein is 30+ miles away but you drive near that area when you go towards Oelwein. I remember this. Old people love to talk about other old people. Some believe that Dans criminal past was the reason the girls were abducted. When asked about Altmayer on July 12, 2017, Roehrkasse told KWWL, The most I would say is that he is one of our leads and I will leave it at that.. Misty and Dan did,and passed! They do mingle in the same places as the girls families and are personally acquainted with some of the family members, as well as with law enforcement officers. They contacted law enforcement officials at 12:45 p.m. On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Chief Deputy Rick Abben with the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Office held a press conference to announce officials were confident the bodies were those of Lyric and Elizabeth. Related: 11 Cold Case Books That Will Chill You to the Bone. Both locations for crime are fishing/hunting/outdoors spots. On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Evansdale police unveiled a new web page http://evansdalepolice.org/latestonlyricandelizabeth.php to act as a clearinghouse for information on the unsolved case. AboutPressCopyrightContact. Well want to look and see if there are any attributes from those cases that are at all consistent with this case.. I thought they were looking at that guy from Northwood IA for this. No one could imagine that these two little girls would never return home, and even though their bicycles and belongings were found within hours of them being reported missing, it would take months to find their bodies and lay them to rest. (Comment was made in ED murders that they are not looking for a gun in this murder). Dan and Misty Morrissey were sent to prison on unrelated drug charges after the girls disappeared, and Mortvedt said Misty Morrissey has since been released. She had a heart of compassion for her family and her friends. There is something wrong with you. He was released from custody following Lyrics disappearance so he could be with his family. Here's my experience. Both sets of girls were found 50 ft from a slow moving stream. She had a big heart and had a great love for animals. Even if I am proven wrong by an arrest of a drug cartel member, other children and adults in this state have been spotted, stalked, killed, and dumped. Im not from that area and wonder if the park is viewable from a passing thoroughfare road. My thought is that it was a local man who one of the girls knew. Not the kind of place and random trucker would know about or be able to drive their truck easily into. Some of the most disturbing drug related killings was that of drug dealers luring the children of lower level users and dealers that had stolen product from them or owed money for drugs used. That is the only missing link. Someone wanting money would threaten or harm the adults who actually owe them money (perhaps by threatening the children, yes). May these little girls rest in peace, I remember this very sad just wish they found out who did it And may those girls rest in peace :(, But there were hopes that this case could have been solved if the man responsible for that kidnapping was also responsible for this kidnapping. I want to lyric and Lizs life and death have meaning and make the changes nessasry to protect and to allow other children their freedom to play again. This was in no way set up as if to send a message as dealers and the mafia do. But they sadly just had almost nothing to work with. Why are you commenting on this year old comment? Prayers for these families. Why did the brother vanish so quickly after the girls were declared missing ? SIX MILES! My thoughts are with all of you. Not everyone has a conscience, I see that you have been correcting peoples grammar but dont you mean coma instead of comma? She enjoyed going on vacations and had traveled to many places. They said the car/truck stunk when they got it. I live in a town of 500. I didnt know what was going on until a classmate told me: The missing girls have been found. Rest in peace. I hope and pray for information leading to an arrest. Didnt you say Gilbert in Evansdale? I am reading conflicting reports. The bodies were transported to the State Medical Examiners Office in Ankeny for positive identification. I was a kid at the time, and I remember going to school the day they found their bodies. I want laws changed I want parents aware and deligent and I want the closed minded masses to think for theirselves to put the children first. I think people want to blame the alleged drug use of the families because, they cant accept the real truth. She attended Kingsley Elementary School and was 10 years old. Im sorry no child is safe. My family refused to tell me because they didnt want to scare me deluded and risky Thank you in advance! I would like to try and track the path they took TO the park as I feel someone watched them and followed them in there, waiting til they got to this remoter area. Easy to get VIN, get crushers records, date, etc. But most likely drug money and prison time. would we be assuming he had to have known of both girls before he committed these crimes? He is also listed as a Missing Person from North Liberty, Iowa, according to the Iowa Dept. Now Ive recently heard of a guy in Webster Co. that was trying to snatch children. Really !, dont dig deeper to find out who did this ??? A lot of similarities. The word is probably as in you probably did not make it past eigth grade. They decided to visit some historical places and streets of Delphi to hang around. Then another cop. I loved her probably as much as her parents did. FWIW, Dustin Honken and Angela Johnson, both small time meth dealers in the Mason City area, kidnapped and killed five people in 1993 order to send a message not to squeal. KCCI said court records show Altmayer was working as a traveling automobile damage field inspector. Mike, he sounds like a good candidate. No family deserves this to happen to their child. My friend said that her grown daughter came over and burst into tears and shared that R. Fitz had tried to molest her when she was a child. As of July 2017, two people have confessed to the crime, but KCCI said authorities eliminated them after discovering the individuals had no intimate details about the case. Contact Us. Which Parents,, both sides have their share!!!!! (2) Both double murders happened on the same date read backwards (which I do NOT believe was just a coincidence). Drew Collins , I will Apologize To you Sir , For The Awful and rude Comments being made about you and your Family . Trees and a fence partially block the view from the highway but there are houses on the other side of the trees that have a direct line of sight to the trail. Fame. theres an awful lot of them though. The responsible person might be someone that their families were acquainted with, but it could have been a stranger (doesnt happen as often, but it does happen). When their grandmother could not find them, she became worried she went out to look for hem, with no luck. An unexperienced or young offender would most likely not take that risk. The little girls were around the same age as my son. Additionally, Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers offered a $20,500 reward for anyone coming forward with information that simply leads to an arrest. They all remain in the Evansdale/Independence area. The timing of things couldnt be more suspicious. Please add the courier and kewl stories about the chief of police Kent smock being corrupt and being fired, then disappeared. Make sure you have facts to support your suspicions. Why not see who called in sick the day they disappeared? I dont know how people can get away with murder. So one of them says hey ur mom/dads in trouble come w us & they did. Imagine letting your children go outside to enjoy a nice afternoon, only to have them vanish into thin air. He (more than likely a he), then drove to a remote, fairly distant area to dispose of the bodies. While we were sitting on the lawn waiting for instructions on the search parties. GONE COLD: EXPLORING IOWAS UNSOLVED MURDERS, http://evansdalepolice.org/latestonlyricandelizabeth.php, person who abducted the cousins was likely local, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Fourth-Memorial-Ride-Drive-in-honor-of-Lyric-and-Elizabeth-KWWL-Eastern-Iowa-Breaking-News-Weather-Closings.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Volunteers-prepare-for-ride-in-honor-of-Lyric-and-Elizabeth-KWWL-Eastern-Iowa-Breaking-News-Weather-Closings.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Vigil-Held-for-3-Girls-Gone-too-Soon-KGAN.mp4, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Iowa-starts-year-long-process-to-be-CART-certified.mp4, Iowa starts year-long process to be CART-certified, https://iowacoldcases.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/DCI-Asst-Director-Talks-About-Evansdale-Cousins-Murder-Investigation-whotvcom.mp4, DCI Asst. Airdate: Feb. 10, 2015, DCI Asst. Lyrics parents and Elizabeths father (Mr. Collins on this page sorry for your losses, sir) went into detail about their mistakes, how theyve paid for them, and what theyre doing now to make things better and honor their daughters/nieces memory. Shes 85 years old and she lives in nearby Shell Rock, Iowa. Hardly anything about him. Chad was convicted with: Lyric R. Cook-Morrisey, 10, and her cousin, Elizabeth Collins, 8, were reported missing to the Evansdale Police Department in Evansdale, Iowa, on Friday, July 13, 2012. I really wish the woman of cold justice would look into this, 1982 September 5th Jonny Gosch was reported missing after he "disappeared" while delivering mail. Discussed at todays RA hearings: evidence; trial "The Courthouse" - Another AWESOME Video from Indy Was KK waiting in red Jeep for Richard Allen? I have been unable to find out if my suspect, Chad Fitz is related to Russell Fitz. She loved singing, riding her bike and playing softball and hockey. Likely he did this to deflect suspicion on the other one involved. I know you surely didnt ask for any of this, If you could turn back time just for 1 min maybe it would change something? Smock was fired from his position as Evansdale chief of police on Tuesday, April 14, 2015. Cant forget his pig slaughter plant signature either. That is why I need that address and if his grandma or mom lived there. In fact she called us in Colorado the night the girls went missing. XXXXX told me about his car being crushed (I found he had a white PU at the time, maybe his, maybe the persons he lived with, he/they may have others, but this was at least one of them.) Both crimes occurred less than a mile from a four- lane highway. Iowa, 5 months after young cousins vanished: Lyric Cook-Morrissey, Elizabeth Collins may be found, authorities say, The Des Moines Register, Dec. 5, 2012, Anonymous donor adds $100K to reward for two missing Iowa girls, The Des Moines Register, Nov. 30, 2012, Iowa Department of Public Safety Missing Person Information Clearinghouse, Mother of missing girl faces new court date, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Nov. 12, 2012, Dads message for daughter: I will never stop looking, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Oct. 19, 2012, What do jurors know about missing girls dad?, KCCI Channel 8 Des Moines, Sept. 26, 2012, Innocence Abducted: From Johnny Gosch to Evansdale Cousins, 30 Years Have Brought Many Changes to Missing Children Investigations, Johnston Patch, Sept. 7, 2012, Attempted Abduction Reports in Ames Jump After Evansdale Girls Go Missing, The Ames Patch, Sept. 5, 2012. State investigators conducted a painstaking examination of potential similarities between the kidnapping and murder of Dayton teenager Kathlynn Shepard and missing person cases in Iowa, and in June 2013 a state official announced that potential connections were already being analyzed between Shepards murder and the Cook and Collins slayings. Dug here (Doug?). It is uncommon for stranger abductions to happen. Of Public Safety. It makes me sick how people want to judge my family and they dont know anything about my family . And this serial killer was able to orchestrate this twice. TODAY: We will never forget, Elizabeth Collins 15th birthday, by Amanda Gilbert, KWWL.com, July 31, 2018, Lyric & Elizabeth Memorial Ride helps keep case active, by Taylor Bailey, KWWL.com, July 15, 2017, A community says, We will never forget, by Jessica Hartman, KWWL.com, July 13, 2017, THIS WEEKEND: 5th Annual Ride and Drive for Lyric and Elizabeth, by Amanda Gilbert, KWWL.com, July 13, 2017, 5 YEARS LATER: Multiple leads and confessions in the Lyric and Elizabeth case, KWWL.com, July 12, 2017, Safety event held in memory of Lyric and Elizabeth, KWWL.com, July 9, 2017, Lyric & Elizabeth Memorial Ride set for this month, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, July 3, 2017, Lyric & Elizabeth Memorial Ride set for next month, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, June 5, 2017, Phone conversations and correspondence with Drew Collins, ongoing, Remembering Lyric & Elizabeth: Murals shed light on unsolved case, by Elizabeth Amanieh, KWWL.com, February 3, 2017, Elizabeth Collins would have celebrated her 13th birthday today, KWWL.com, July 31, 2016, Remembering Elizabeth and Lyric four years later, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, July 13, 2016, Safety Awareness Day in honor of cousins murdered 4 years ago, by Amanda Gilbert, KWWL.com, July 13, 2016, Fourth Memorial Ride & Drive in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Taylor Bailey, KWWL.com, July 9, 2016, Volunteers prepare for ride in honor of Lyric and Elizabeth, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, July 7, 2016, Seven Bridges Park still important in Lyric and Elizabeth investigation, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, Feb. 18, 2016, Gone Cold: The case of two missing cousins, Part of the, On anniversary of kidnapping/murder, parents visit 7 Bridges, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, July 13, 2015, On the three year anniversary, police continue to search for clues in the murder case of two eastern Iowa cousins, KTIV.com, July 13, 2015, Murdered cousins case priority for Evansdale Police, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, July 12, 2015, Memorial Ride and Drive for Elizabeth & Lyric today, KWWL.com, July 11, 2015, Organizers hope event brings new light to Evansdale cousins case, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, July 9, 2015, Memorial ride set for Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, June 1, 2015, Missing cousins case to remain paramount after firing of police chief, by Chris Earl, KCRG-TV9, April 15, 2015, Dirt donations rolling in for Angels Park, KWWL.com, March 24, 2015, Lyric and Elizabeth: Full statement released by Evansdale Police, KWWL.com, Feb. 3, 2015, Investigators provide update in Evansdale cousins case, by Tad Andersen, KCCI.com, Feb. 3, 2015, Christmas display up at Angels Park, by Michael Crowe, KWWL.com, Dec. 11, 2014, Lyric and Elizabeth still remembered in Evansdale, by Nikki Newbrough, KWWL.com, Dec. 4, 2014, Evansdale Police start dedicated Lyric and Elizabeth web page, by Amie Steffeneicher, KWWL.com, Aug. 21, 2014, Misty Morrissey pleads guilty to drug charges, by Eric Page, KWWL.com, July 24, 2014, Sadness remains as two-year mark passes in cousins case, The Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier/The Clinton Herald, July 22, 2014, Ride for the Girls marks 2nd anniversary of disappearance, by Bob Waters, KWWL.com, July 11, 2014, Hundreds expected at memorial ride for Evansdale cousins, by Shelley Russell, KWWL.com, July 11, 2014, Registration open for motorcycle ride in memory of slain Evansdale cousins, by Shelley Russell, KWWL.com, June 10, 2014, Drew Collins rides bicycle in Elizabeths memory in New York, by Kyle Palmolea, KWWL.com, May 16, 2014, Klunder no longer person of interest in Evansdale case, KWWL.com, May 14, 2014, Mother Of Slain Evansdale Girl Back In Custody, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, March 4, 2014, Lyric Ray Lynn Cook obituary, Locke Funeral Home, Elizabeth June Marie Collins obituary, Overton Family Funeral Homes, Photos: The hunt for Elizabeth and Lyric (part 2) : The hunt for Lyric and Elizabeth, WCF Courier, Dec. 5, 2013, Calls Still Coming On Slain Iowa Cousins, WOWT.com, Dec. 5, 2013, One year after Lyric & Elizabeth found murdered, case not cold, KWWL.com, Dec. 4, 2013, A year later, probe continues in Iowa cousins deaths, The Montgomery Advertiser, montgomeryadvertiser.com, Dec. 4, 2013, Poyner Elementary fifth graders make jewelry in memory of friend, KWWL.com, Nov. 3, 2013, Family remembers Lyric Cook on birthday, KWWL.com, Oct. 2, 2013, Angels Among Us Poker Run honors kidnapped girls, KWWL.com, Aug. 17, 2013, Child abduction response training coming to North Iowa, KIMT TV, Aug. 9, 2013, Preventing Abuse Conference in Cedar Rapids Looks at Human Trafficking, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Aug. 9, 2013, Kidnapping cases prompt change to Amber Alert criteria, The Des Moines Register Staff Blogs, July 31, 2013, Iowans Mark Missing Cousins Anniversary, KELOLAND.com, July 14, 2013, Hundreds of Motorcycles Ride to Remember Evansdale Cousins, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, July 13, 2013, Turning Tragedy into Beauty: Work Continues at Angels Park, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, July 12, 2013, Investigators Grieve With Families, Community as 1-Year Anniversary of Evansdale Abduction Approaches, Cedar Falls (IA) Patch, July 11, 2013, Photos: The hunt for Elizabeth and Lyric (part 2) : The hunt for Lyric and Elizabeth, WCF Courier, July 11, 2013, Memorial Ride and Drive For The Girls set for July 13th, KWWL.com, July 7, 2013, Year has brought new purpose, no comfort for Elizabeth Collins family, The Des Moines Register, desmoinesregister.com, July 7, 2013, Slain Iowa Girls Father Pleads Guilty In Drug Case, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, June 26, 2013, Heather & Drew Collins Talk About New Tips, Investigation Nearing One Year, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, June 24, 2013, DCI searching for white SUV in connection with Lyric, Elizabeth, KWWL.com, June 24, 2013, Evidence in Dayton, Evansdale cases headed to FBI crime lab, Des Moines Register blogs, June 21, 2013, Police Investigate Dayton-Evansdale Abductions Connection, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa News, June 19, 2013, Authorities Still Looking into Klunder in Evansdale Case, KIMT Channel 3, June 7, 2013, Iowa Official: Psychics Not on Payroll, WOW-TV Channel 6, June 6, 2013, Police Still Examining Klunders Possible Connection To Evansdale Case, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, May 29, 2013, In evil week, tiny Dayton tries to cope, The Des Moines Register, May 26, 2013, Michael Klunder, Iowa Kidnapping Suspect, Probed In Death Of Lyric Cook, Elizabeth Collins, Huffington Post, May 23, 2013, Evansdale investigators looking for links in Dayton missing girl case, The Des Moines Register, May 21, 2013, Funeral held for 1 of 2 slain Iowa cousins, The WCF Courier, May 4, 2013, Funeral Held For 1 of 2 Slain Iowa Cousins, by Associated Press, KDLT.com, South Dakota News, May 4, 2013, Funeral Set For Elizabeth Collins, KCRG-TV9, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, KCRG.com, May 3, 2013, Elizabeth Collins funeral Saturday open to public, KWWL.com, May 3, 2013, Two Black Hawk Co. law officers recognized in Des Moines, KWWL.com, April 25, 2013, Progress continues on memorial for cousins, KCCI, April 23, 2013, Will Slain Iowa Girls Ever Get Justice? Gather.com, April 22, 2013, Concert for the Angels remembers Lyric and Elizabeth, KWWL.com, April 20, 2013, Paying it forward: Dozens of Concert for the Angels tickets, KWWL.com, April 17, 2013, Funeral Held for Lyric Cook-Morrissey, Gather, April 13, 2013, Funeral service held for missing Iowa girl, WXOW News 19 La Crosse, WI, April 13, 2013, Memorial Service Held for Lyric Cook, KCRG-TV9, April 12, 2013, Funeral service for Lyric Cook held today, sources confirm, KWWl.com, April 12, 2013, Evansdale Police Chief: Stranger danger conversation important, KWWL.com, April 11, 2013, Volunteers Get to Work on Angels Park, KCRG TV9, Cedar Rapids, April 2, 2013, Evansdale Abduction: Burial Planned for Elizabeth Collins an Unbearable Step But Part of Healing Process, The West Des Moines Patch, April 2, 2013, Public burial set for 1 of 2 slain Iowa cousins, Des Moines Register, April 2, 2013, Memorial gazebo for Evansdale cousins in the works, KWWL Channel 7, Feb. 21, 2013, Is Evansdale girls killer on the loose? , i see that you know all these details, yes ) what was going on vacations had! 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