Not really sure which Rockwell and method I'd specify. Corrrction: "There" instead of "They" , stupid auto-correct. It is sometimes described as a Mauser with Mannlicher features, and sometimes the reverse. This tube was intended to increase accuracy by preventing the barrel from directly contacting the stock, but in practice it increased the risk of rusting by providing a space for water to be trapped if the rifle was exposed to harsh conditions. After the start of World War 1, some of the remaining Gewehr 88 S rifles were modified to the Gewehr 88/14 standard, which was generally similar to Gewehr 88/05 but with cruder workmanship. HideTV Updates and Shot Show Streams Coming This Week. If you want to search the archives, I'm fairly certian we may have, If you can figure out how to do this, there are hundreds of tousands of. I also have a Turk converted 88 I bought in the 70's for 30 or 35 bucks. I'll have to thread any new barrel (unless custom made for the Gew88) so that it will fit into the Gew action and since I've never done that before I'm worried I'd mess it up and ruin a new barrel. The front band served also as sight guard. If you have one thats been sporterised, dont worry, it will shoot just as well as the modern sporters will, all things being equal.. deepen the grooves to the desired bore diameter. The complete magazine required 141 operations; while the stock required 49. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} But such was not the case. Haenel & Co. quickly became a force in German gunmaking and, like most German firms, produced sporting weapons when it was not filling military contracts. Suitable only for short range hunting? And why, when Model 95s are prized by collectors, are Haenel-Mannlichers all but forgotten except for a few devotees of early custom rifles? ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} It was a superior replacement using the same ammunition with a stronger powder charge. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The Gewehr 1888 is a further development of the receiver and bolt of the Gewehr 1871 combined with a Mannlicher magazine. Schilling j bore that I stupidly sold. + $10.00 shipping . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 1888 GEW GERMAN COMMISSION GEWEHR 88 Walnut wood STOCK w/rear swivel & frnt bnd . Haenel, the primary private contractor, developed a line of improved models ranging from nicely made to gorgeous - but never chambered in the higher intensity modern loads. Either will do what the 06 will do. I think I'll build it in 9.3x57. +$43.00 shipping. Dont try to shoot modern 8x57 in it until you figure it out. I bought one about 5 years ago for 600. The barrel design and rifling were virtually copied from the French Lebel. But for a truly skilled shooter the 857 is more than capable of knocking off non dangerous game at 600 yards not that I would take such a shot despite the fact that I have competed in NRA across the course events in their 3 position shooting. IN SEPARATE SECTIONS WE HAVE SOME SEMI-FINISHED STOCKS, AS WELL AS SYNTHETIC ON OTHER PAGES. The designer was Louis Schlegelmilch chief gunsmith of Spandau Arsenal who perfected the mauser M1871 bolt adding two locking lugs in front of it. This doesn't mean that I think you shouldn't - maybe you should! I've done some projects that people with more experience questioned, , and I appreciate the questioning it got me to look for answers to questions I could'nt come up with myself, so i'm not trying to change your mind. We're currently in the process of updating HideTV and you can access the new system and get more info below! This Commission Rifle was made in Germany by Amberg in Germany. All these plants were under the financial control of Loewe. They may be fine, but what if they're not? Ahlwardt accused Loewe of being a spy for France, and denounced the rifle as a Judenflinte ("Jews' musket"). 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[15] These were likely intended for sale in South America, where use of the 757mm cartridge was widespread. While the majority were chambered for the standard military 857 cartridge (usually the original .318 bullet, rather than the later .323) they were also offered in pure hunting cartridges like the 957. There were numerous blow ups with these rifles, serious injuries and deaths were recorded. HAENEL. The commission rifle saw field service with Germany's colonial expansion, including in China during the Boxer Rebellion (with the Gewehr 88s and the unlicensed Hanyang 88 copies also being used by the opposing Chinese troops),[5] and served as a front line weapon for German troops during World War I until 1915 when the supply of Gewehr 98s increased. This system was used in almost all Mannlicher designs and derivatives, and while it allows for speedy reloading, it also creates an entry point for dirt. Also with a new barrel I may have a little trouble with the barrel jacket issue. 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Eight major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. I've casually thought about what would have to be done to create an accurately rifled bore, and I've concluded that I'm not going to go there. Everything good and modern occurred after that, they believe, and nothing much before. I'll try to use the original barrel if possible (since a new barrel would be several times the cost of the entire rifle) and do most or all of the work myself. There are lots of Mauser 98s out there at minimal cost. Your supposed to have a clear shot, not shoot through brush. So is it 9mm para or some other 9mm flavor? Anyone know what TYSKT is, though? The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. I try to be as independent a "do it yourselfer" as I can on principle - if I'm not learning how to do something new its not worth the time investment. don't bother messing around with the 88 if your goal is a cheap hunting gun. In other words, 46,933 ft. lbs. I think the .338x57 may be the best choice for this action for hunting in thick woods (won't be deflected as easily as a smaller bullet). I have one of these nice rifle. The barrel shroud was not only possessed . Many of the Gewehr 88-rifles were produced by the armament manufacturer Loewe & Company, whose chairman was Jewish entrepreneur Isidor Loewe. These factors can be very serious with these early model German arms when used with modern ammunition, even where the bore has worn down. inch for the round nose and 17.5 tons for the pointed nose. I bet you could rig something up to produce a nice smooth bore. This bolt was straight as in the standard rifle. I blame the deer for getting behind the brush. Later models provided for loading with stripper clips (Gewehr 88/05s and Gewehr 88/14s) and went on to serve in World War I to a limited degree. I don't know about shooting threw the brush but personally I just think it would be a cool rifle to own. Now yer makin sense!!! A reason for this is that US ammunition makers fear the lawsuits that would follow if S bore (.323) Spitzer bullets were fired in the older unconverted J-bore Commission 88 rifles of the old J (.318) bore size. The 8.08mm (.318 in) bullet diameter however remained unchanged. Shooters planning to use modern 8mm ammunition in a Gewehr 88 slug their bore and chamber as there are four different possible bores and grooves and chamber dimensioning combinations found on the Gewehr 88 rifle. Lots of them made to sporter standard by many of the best German smiths. The rifle has an odd appearance as the entire 'floating' barrel is encased in a sheet metal tube for protection, but with the tube removed the rifle looks rather modern. This made Germany's rifle, the Mauser Model 1871, obsolete due to its large and slow 11mm round propelled by black powder. Any links to barrels I could consider for this project? i have an old mauser in awesome shape could someone help me learn more about it. 1b)", http://www.wildlife-baldus.com/download/Maji_Maji.pdf, http://www.fhhljx.com/thefreelibrary/Russian+rifles+of+the+great+war,+revolution+%26+civil+war--part+I%3A-a0391733875, "Weapons Of The Greco-Turkish War Part 2", "Three members of the Ethiopian Zabagna, or gendarmerie, photographed about the time of the Italian invasion in the fall of 1935 [721 x 807]: HistoryPorn", "Repblica Armas Infantera Fusiles", "The rifles of Israel 1948-1980 - Israel Military Forum", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gewehr_1888&oldid=1122884205, Weapons and ammunition introduced in 1888, Articles with German-language sources (de), All articles with bare URLs for citations, Articles with bare URLs for citations from March 2022, Articles with PDF format bare URLs for citations, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox weapon with unknown parameters, Articles with unsourced statements from January 2021, Articles with unsourced statements from November 2022, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. It should feed well based on case size but what about the length? Hoosier Gun Works Online Catalog Not all of our inventory is listed, more coming in Daily RIFLE, AND FULL SIZE SHOT GUN LENGTH SHOTGUN STOCKS LISTED BELOW. What do you think? @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} 7.9257mm Mauser adapted rifles have the receiver marked with a large "S" rollmark. The European sporters are generally worth as much as a non-modified rifle. Firearms manufactured at sterreichische Waffenfabriksgesellschaft /, harvnb error: no target: CITEREFWessels2000 (, preventing the barrel from directly contacting the stock, Revolutions and interventions in Hungary (191820), 857mm IS cartridge portrait Totgesagte leben lnger, Wild und Hund 11/2006, "ZEIT ONLINE | Lesen Sie zeit.de mit Werbung oder im PUR-Abo. do yourself a favor and buy a Turk mauser (k.Kale if you can) for about a hundred bucks and shoot it. Thread starter Son of Dorn; Start date Dec 6, 2019; Forums. The European sporters are generally worth as much as a non-modified rifle. I'd think this would go well with you desire to go from 8 to 9.3MM. Event: Fall Ammo, Reloading, Gun & Sporting Auction. To keep pace with the French (who had adopted smokeless powder "small bore" ammunition for their Lebel Model 1886 rifle) the Germans adopted the Gewehr 88 using its own new Patrone 88 cartridge, which was also designed by the German Rifle Commission. PRE-WW2 1919 GERMAN MAUSER M98 1898 GEWEHRFABRIK DANZIG COMMERCIAL SPORTING RIFLE 8X57 OR 8X57JS. for the pointed nose. Unfortunately he stole the Mannlicher patented en bloc clip so the cunning baron blackmailed the arsenal asking for the manufacturing and marketing license of the M1888 without royalties to grant the use of the magazine and clip. Likely a chopped 88 standard rifle. You must log in or register to reply here. In the frenzy of rifle development in Europe between the arrival of smokeless powder in 1886 and the ultimate Mauser in 1898, several good military bolt rifles made their debut. 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Do you think it would be possible for me to convert it to 9.3 myself using CNC machines? Yes the newer guns may shoot accurately but holding a piece of plasticky stocked junk made mostly of stamped sheet metal and junk castings its enough to make a brass monkey puke providing you are one of those rare old time individuals that actually understands what goes into the making of a quality firearm. Seller: Kramer Auction Service LLC - Prairie du Chien, WI. These in 7.92x57i. Making the world a better place to live in. Kyle, Send me your name & address so I can take out some insurance on you. Lot number: 150. Terry Wieland is shooting editor of Grays Sporting Journal and a recognized authority on fine firearms. Schilling - Suhl - Prussia. The last time they saw action in Chinese service was during the Korean War, where some of them were captured and taken to the US as souvenirs.[14]. I have a few in different configuration. China first bought Gewehr 88 rifles for the First Sino-Japanese War in 18941895 and after that started production of the unlicensed Hanyang 88 copy. The following information on the Gewehr 88 Carbine comes from Chapter 12 of Mauser Rifles and Pistols by W. H. B. Smith. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. As a result, the number of minor variations seems endless. While their handload data goes up to 46,000. However, this rifle soon had to be converted to fire the new Spitzer round that Germany adopted after the turn of the century. The sporting model 1888 cartridge uses a relatively light charge of modern leaf powder with a relatively soft bullet. (Antique) Excellent condition! Much confusing information has been spread through the years about the German round nose and pointed bullet 7.9 ammunition. Should I go for it? Try and get into better lighting and take some pictures of it. Since you are a machinest perhaps you can figure this out. You will find early Mannlichers from Steyr as well as German and Austrian custom makers, and you will find custom-ordered takedown rifles and modified Gewehr 88s. Although the packet loading system proved to be a design shortcoming, it is not uncommon to encounter a Gewehr 88 today which still retains it. They are both finely made rifles, and some of the Haenels especially so. Part of the production run was exported to China (see lower) or Latin America (for example Brazil army use them in War of Canudos in 18961897). Collecting Haenel-Mannlichers may never make you any money, but it can lead into exploration of a fascinating byway in the history of the sporting rifle. If it's a big thumper you want then the 9.3x57 is just the ticket. The jist of the discussion was using the existing rifeling as a guide. 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